No Moore Spin
Ignoring the petty sarcasm from the ‘other Tim’ – let’s move on to his assumptions, and I quote – “It's astonishing that someone who hasn't got the slightest notion of how government works believes that "da bomb" trumps the opinion of the supreme court of the United States.”
First, the Supreme Court of the United States hasn’t given an opinion – they just said they wouldn't hear the case. Second of all – the issue that is at stake is the interpretation of the constitution – and no matter what you may think, that does ‘trump’ the supreme court. Yes, I know the court is supposed to interpret the constitution – but the key word there is ‘interpret’ not rewrite.
And I once again quote “There are places for fools who don't believe in secular government if you don't like life here. Unfortunately, all of those places are in the MiddleEast.” Ah, first let’s not confine that to the middle east – I assume you’re talking about ‘religious’ state governments? If I am correct in that assumption please don’t rule out China – atheism is in all reality a very real religion. Second – this government was founded on Judeo-Christian values and principles. Our founding fathers (for the most part) believed in the God of the Bible as a supreme being at the least, others believed in the God of the Bible as their personal Saviour. They prayed to the God of the Bible, and they founded this country using Biblical principles and concepts.
Yet they did not desire to see a religion forced on the citizens of this country. The country was founded on the principles of the Bible, but it would not dictate what you personally believed. Neither does displaying the Ten Commandments. You are not forced to become a ‘Christian’ because they are on display in the Supreme Court building of Alabama. They are simply the expression of the people of Alabama – as a general rule. Yes, people knew what Judge Moore would do when they elected them. That monument reflects the beliefs of the people of Alabama.
Some Guy said, “How would you feel if it was the Koran or the sayings from the Dalai Lama in the entrance of the courtroom?” Quite honestly, I’m not afraid of that. As stated in the last paragraph, that monument is reflective of the people of Alabama. I don’t think they would place the Koran, or sayings of the Dalai Lama in the courtroom. And I don’t fear it even if they did – as long as it was only the expression of what the people, though their elected officials, believed. However, Christianity has been the only (yes, only) belief system that when it’s followers are in power guarantees freedom to all beliefs. Islam and even atheism have a track record of toleration as long as their the minority, but when they're in the majority they forget all about it.
I’m not afraid of the free expression of thought, and neither were our founding fathers. And they weren’t afraid to express themselves. Neither should we.
So if the ‘Other Tim’ or ‘Some Guy’ would like to discuss this more publicly – by all means let’s do just that. I’ll set up a public debate myself, on my server. However, if you don’t like confrontation and the Truth – stay out of the ‘No Spin Zone’.
You’ve just watched some philosophical judo. ;-)